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north of london, right? what's so awful about it?

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Tramps. EVERYWHERE. Constant harrassment by them, now I'm a generous guy, but when the same tramp asks me for money everytime I go there. It pisses me off.

He says "A pound for chicken and chips!" when there isn't a chip shop or any shop in England that will sell you that, for that price.

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lol good to know..i'm kind of moving to london in 2008 and i've only been there once i have like no orientation and no idea where to go and where NOT to go.

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Tramps. EVERYWHERE. Constant harrassment by them, now I'm a generous guy, but when the same tramp asks me for money everytime I go there. It pisses me off.

He says "A pound for chicken and chips!" when there isn't a chip shop or any shop in England that will sell you that, for that price.
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and do you give it to him? the money, i mean, not the chicken and chips.
you can get chicken and chips for $2.00 in the states, but here it would be called chicken and fries. however, i find food that costs less than $5.00 extremely suspicious.

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lol good to know..i'm kind of moving to london in 2008 and i've only been there once i have like no orientation and no idea where to go and where NOT to go.
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"kind of" moving? does that mean temporarily?

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and do you give it to him? the money, i mean, not the chicken and chips.
you can get chicken and chips for $2.00 in the states, but here it would be called chicken and fries. however, i find food that costs less than $5.00 extremely suspicious.
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I've given it too him a couple of times, yes, but I'm a student, and I'm poor.

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the university i attend is in a semi-sketchy part of town, so i too am often approached by the same homeless men over and over. i give them money if i have it, but i feel like telling them they've had their turns already; there are a lot of people in need in this city and i can't spend all my charity dollars on the same four.
plus, there are lots of shelters and half-way houses in the area and i sort of resent them for making no attempt to better their situations when those facilities are available to them.
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and some of carl that hedi also took





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thx for posting the you talk -pics! i haven't seem them before!

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very welcome. i also have lots of pics that have been taken at the recent babyshambles shows.

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^^go on and post them :)


just stumbled over some old poetry of pete... those are my favorites....they're genius:


[b:154xq3i6]‘Ask a Stupid Question’ [/b:154xq3i6]

Someone on or above the earth, tell me why on
Earth, does she beg of love at the feet of men
who snatch hers from her, selling it on to themselves
at a profit that can’t possibly reflect it’s worth.
This always ungentle robbery, is not a plot of lust,
Because she is very conscious of her select few lovers,
Particularly in relation to her gains, to her own
sexual harvest.
The answer, in vague and uncertain terms, lies
somewhere in the shaded area shaped quadrangle
by the lines that don’t quite connect the picture
of a father, the part of her soul that freezes at the
touch of warmth, the tattered feminist beginners handbook,
the lamp shade and the bloody gate that she gazes
at monthly, that she once made me taste, that
stains her desire for progress.
But desire tarnished; twisted, perverse desire does not
have any implications for the progress itself,
and so, progressively, her questions become more stupid.
Hand in the fire stupid, eating broken glass stupid,
forgetting that you don’t like pain stupid. Stupid,
then and stupid when, on a terribly, deadly sunny
day came the most ridiculous, nauseous,
frustratingly stupidest question of them all.
On the wall high above the groggith of all the things I
could not bring myself to say, she turned to me,
just as the sun turned away, and
(thinking, in her stupidity, that it couldn’t
See or hear us) asked:
‘Will you love me forever?’
‘Of course not,’ I said.

[b:154xq3i6]
The Continuing Adventure of Spaniel O’Spaniel. (Part XI, at the Careers Officers) [/b:154xq3i6]

In his passion, only a passion for life,
he would, with deliberation, never hurrying,
deliberately get the words wrong.
‘I don’t’ when he did
‘I will’ when he clearly won’t
The careers officer, a plumping cheerless soul
and a superb liar in his own right,
surveyed the sorry specimen before him. This
murky-eyed bundle of hair
and shabby blue suit. Mr Egg breathed a
sigh of despair.
‘So Spaniel, what are your interests or
hobbies?’
‘My answer sir, here: I AM QUIET AND LONESOME
AND FULL OF HEAVY MERCURY, INDUSTRIAL
MELENCHOLY. I HAVE PATIENCE WITHOUT
INSIGHT AND INSIGHT WITHOUT CARE FOR COHERENCE
I MAKE MUSIC IN MY HEAD AND WISH THAT I WAS
DEAD.’
The careers officer, Mr Egg, nodded with
false wisdom, discarded the Territorial
Army brochures, and gazed with intent
at the top of Spaniel O’Spaniel’s head.
‘Is there anything you want from life?’
‘Dangerous question, Egg.
THE ANSWER TO THAT, SIR, IS THAT
I WANT DEATH ON THE STAIRS’
Laughter billowed at a most unnatural frequency,
Shocking the small office.
‘When? When do you want death on the stairs?’
‘When? The same time as all the fucking others-
when I’ve been down in Albion in a Hackney
Cabriolet. When all my domesticated heroes have
died, when I’ve lied to all me loved ones.
WHEN I’VE BECOME IMUNE TO MY OWN
INSTINCTS, WHEN I’M SO MUCH IN DEBT I SMASH
UP TELEPHONE BOXES AND LITTLE OLD PEOPLE IN ORDER
TO KEEP UP MY PERIODICAL SUBSCRIPTIONS, AND
JACK McNASTY, NORTH WEST LONDONS MOST BLOOD
THIRSTY BLACK-HEARTED LOAN SHARK RUNS AWAY
FROM ME IN PITY AND FEAR.
WHEN I LIE BETWEEN COLD STONE WALLS
BREATHING GASCEOUS FAG ASH, ALONE WITH THE
DUST MITES IN THIS PITEOUS VISION.
WHEN THE NIGH IS WORLDS AWAY FROM THE
DAY.
A pause. Mr Egg, the Careers Officer,
twirls his finger round a rubber plant
leaf. Spaniel stands, in crescendo,
WHEN I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THE DAYS
IN THE SUN WERE ALLUSIONS.
WHEN I SEE THE TEARS & TEARS IN
MY PROUD FATHERS COAT,
WHEN MY SAVIOUR, MY LORD, THE
ONE WHO PROMISED ME LIFE
IS DRINKING IN STEPNEY WITH HIS SOON
TO BE WIFE
THEN, SURE AS McFUCKETY,
IT’S TIME FOR DEATH ON THE STAIRS.

[b:154xq3i6]
Bath Water [/b:154xq3i6]

Having to share bath water
In the north of England
Is a common occurrence
Between families on the
Breadline, also it can be danger-
ous. E.g.
After taking longer than I
Should, my mother asked for
The last time for me to get out
Of the bath, she was late for
Work.
I jumped out hoping she
Wouldn’t notice the sperm I’d
Tried to hide under a blanket
Of bubble bath, well, I was a
Teenager.
Six weeks later my mum
Announced she was with child
Which surprised my father ‘cos
The old man had not been
Near mother since late 71.
8 months later a baby
With a strawberry birthmark,
Six fingers on each hand, and an
Also bore and uncanny likeness
To moi.
Of course this accidental
Inbreeding incident is the
Tory governments fault for
Killin’ my dads jib
As a minor, in 84. After that
We couldn’t afford to have to have
The water boiler on more than
Once a day.

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okay, i will post them, however, the most recent show he had the flu, and you can really tell he was sick.

these are from tapntin with chas and dave




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and these are from two nights ago? at the same venue, pete had to leave after 5 or 6 songs he was so ill, walked off stage and threw up, but the shambles kept playing and had some people from the crowd sing some of the songs. i have this bootleg as well





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^^go on and post them :)
just stumbled over some old poetry of pete... those are my favorites....they're genius:

there's this one as well, which he sometimes throws into the end of a song:

[i:1suru1v9]last night i dreamt we'd never grow old, and we'd cast our dreams in solid gold, the brass is worn and the gold is cold, we'd still have our love, but i wrote today.....our loves been spent, arms round the door begging for your love. [/i:1suru1v9]

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thx so much for the pics! they're really good. most of my pics are rubbish because of the lack of brightness in venues..
but i have some good pete pics from an open air festival last year..

yeah i heard that he has the flu..a friend of mine was at that london show two days (or so) ago aswell.
i hope they'll play some gigs in london in january because i'm in london then

i always wondered if pete would have had a better life if he went for a career solely as a poet...
he is jsut so talented as a writer.

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thx so much for the pics! they're really good. most of my pics are rubbish because of the lack of brightness in venues..
but i have some good pete pics from an open air festival last year..

yeah i heard that he has the flu..a friend of mine was at that london show two days (or so) ago aswell.
i hope they'll play some gigs in london in january because i'm in london then

i always wondered if pete would have had a better life if he went for a career solely as a poet...
he is jsut so talented as a writer.
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Perhaps....he's so good at music though. I love all his acoustic stuff, can't wait for his solo album.
You're welcome for the pics, I didn't take them, some friends of mine did. Wish they would come to the U.S!

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I got the Libertines "Boys in the band" DVD the other day. Has any one else seen it?

Here's some more pics Hedi took, which reminds me, though off topic, I really want the book he released with all his Courtney Love pictures.





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^^the pics are brilliant <3

i haven'T seen the dvd yet...i don't have the extendet selftitled version which features the dvd...
i just couldn't get it when i bought the selftitled :(

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i haven'T seen the dvd yet...i don't have the extendet selftitled version which features the dvd...
i just couldn't get it when i bought the selftitled :(
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I had to get it. Someone stole my copy, so I had to go buy another one, the only place around here that had any albums by them was Borders. They had about 15 copies of the best of, and one of Up the Bracket and one of the Self titles with the boys in the band DVD. Didn't sell it without.

I'm pretty sure you can find everything that's on the DVD on you tube already

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Pete's toes are yellow.

He needs to clean them =P



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wooo pete's out of prison
gonna go see him in glastonbury now!

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he's playin in kentish town next tuesday...i'd like to go...but 25quid..and i'm skint.. :(

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Pete Doherty's Babyshambles are set to be the subject of an official book documenting the story of the band so far.

'Babyshambles: The Official Story', written by Spencer Honniball, will be released later this year by publisher Casell Illustrated. A final release date is yet to be set.

Matthew Clayton from Casell Illustrated claimed to The Bookseller that the book would be "the most exciting rock 'n' roll story of the last five years," adding, "If you are looking at music biographies, you couldn't get a more dramatic or outrageous rock 'n' roll story."

Honniball has previously written the programme notes for Babyshambles' UK arena tour last year.



This should be a real good read!!!!!!!!!

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Oh, please don't quote Rancid while referring to Pete Doherty. Especially when said song is about the legendary Jim Carroll. Pete Doherty only wishes he could shit anything a [i:275mmvhd]one hundredth[/i:275mmvhd] as talented as Mr. Carroll.

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I really dont see the pete draw, hes not that cute hes not that talented hes just a drug addict who looks like he really reallys smells

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Exactly.
Heroin chic.
It's so passй.

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Pete Doherty makes me get sick into my own scorn, I really, really hate him....

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have you EVER listened to his lyrics, well the libertines' lyrics which are half Carl barats anyway..what people mostly forget

and the babyshambles first album was chaos,noise and punk with amazing melodies and lyrics...


babyshambles now..kind of suck though.

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he wants to be a poet. in reality he is a nonce...

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..you're missing out on some amazing tunes (especially the early libertines)..but whatever..i'm standing alone here i guess

concerning poetry...he won poetry contests aswell when he was young and drug fee etc

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[quote="baroness_strange":2n4kch1c]
have you EVER listened to his lyrics, well the libertines' lyrics which are half Carl barats anyway..what people mostly forget

and the babyshambles first album was chaos,noise and punk with amazing melodies and lyrics...


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Well said. I just wish they could reunite.


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I wouldn't be surprised if the dolt plagiarizes ideas. Either way, he is in NO way comparable to Jim Carroll.

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[quote="forgotten":3cj12est]
Exactly.
Heroin chic.
It's so passй.
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Everyone knows it's all about meth now, someone really needs to let him know

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